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i am a little surprised that the president fresh off the election is saying that the speaker of the house is supposed to lead the country. he is supposed to lead, his party is the more difficult to get legislation through. so for him to say in the last 24 hours before the tax increases that it's up to john boehner to fix things surprises me and disappoints me a great deal. >> eric: obviously, you are faulting, in your view, a lack of presidential leadership? not only faulting, i think a lot of folks are not focused, i have believed that the president wants to go over the cliff. peter orszag, telling the president 3 and 4 years that the tax rates needed to go up. howard dean was making the rounds for months, saying that tax rates need to go up. nancy pelosi thinks the tax rates should go up on everybody. does the president have the political will to go against his own party? what we are seeing so far, he is not. we read his first offer, when he sat down with mr. boehner, mr. boehner said here's $800 billion for revenue and what do i get for that? the president allegedly said, that's for fr
i am a little surprised that the president fresh off the election is saying that the speaker of the house is supposed to lead the country. he is supposed to lead, his party is the more difficult to get legislation through. so for him to say in the last 24 hours before the tax increases that it's up to john boehner to fix things surprises me and disappoints me a great deal. >> eric: obviously, you are faulting, in your view, a lack of presidential leadership? not only faulting, i think a...
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republicans elected on holding the line on taxes and cut spend having a good argument saying i won't support something that does nothing about entitlement. >> a political issue. you vote against tax cuts. >> it doesn't matter in principle. but occasionmfully truth -- >> yes, it does. >> republicans are against raising taxes. you will have 150 house republicans vote for it. something like that. if it's high enough. over $500,000. >> with the incremental raising of the threshold you will get republican votes. >> sure you will. the won with plan "b" of bane bay he couldn't -- boehner he couldn't get enough republicans. he had 150 republicans out of 240 and he couldn't get to 218 or what they needed. to pass it. president obama has an odd negotiating style. if you get near negotiation deal he raises the anti. that is what he did. everyone was optimistic in november how soon they would get a deal and agree on one. he comes in after thig with a brand new offer he wants another, another stimulus package. money for a housing program. deal with debt limit. >> so both could go back to white ho
republicans elected on holding the line on taxes and cut spend having a good argument saying i won't support something that does nothing about entitlement. >> a political issue. you vote against tax cuts. >> it doesn't matter in principle. but occasionmfully truth -- >> yes, it does. >> republicans are against raising taxes. you will have 150 house republicans vote for it. something like that. if it's high enough. over $500,000. >> with the incremental raising of...
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boehner's republicans won an election too. he was elected president, not prime minister. he can't dictate to the house the way he would in england. >> as we look forward here, i heard you mention the debt commission and that's come up a couple times, that we've been down this road before with congress kind of bringing us to the brink but they always do a back deal. that has a longer lasting effect on the economy because every time we go through this, the markets react. people pull back. talk to me a little bit about what's forecasted for tuesday? we're get to hit the debt ceiling. >> a perfect storm. >> yes, but maybe it's one we need to endure so we can straighten our country out. if we go along with the president we have to reckon with the fact entitlement spending, about $650 billion or so, between now and the end of the decade, it will be up over a trillion per year. so we are really headed for a greek situation. by giving the president his way tonight, republicans will be bequeathing to his successor the kind of mess the greek president and italian prime minister are
boehner's republicans won an election too. he was elected president, not prime minister. he can't dictate to the house the way he would in england. >> as we look forward here, i heard you mention the debt commission and that's come up a couple times, that we've been down this road before with congress kind of bringing us to the brink but they always do a back deal. that has a longer lasting effect on the economy because every time we go through this, the markets react. people pull back....
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there was an election and president obama campaigned principally on that point and won and i do think we ought to be willing to give on that point. do i think that house republicans have some reason to also expect commitment to spending cuts to balance that. and what disappoints moo he is that speaker boehner and the president made real progress. the president made real concessions going up to some say $400,000 in his negotiations. and speaker boehner was unwilling to give the confidence about the debt ceiling raise that he needed back for them to be able to put together the sort of bigger bolder bipartisan package that would have is done the right thing for our country. here we are at the last moment wondering whether when we in the senate take up the house passed piece of legislation amend it and send it back to them whether they will take it up for a vote before the end of the year and prevent the overwhelming majority of americans seeing their taxes go up before january 1. >> shannon: there on the hill a lot of uncertainty as you wait to see what leaders have been hammering out. a
there was an election and president obama campaigned principally on that point and won and i do think we ought to be willing to give on that point. do i think that house republicans have some reason to also expect commitment to spending cuts to balance that. and what disappoints moo he is that speaker boehner and the president made real progress. the president made real concessions going up to some say $400,000 in his negotiations. and speaker boehner was unwilling to give the confidence about...
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but an election happened. president obama has the first democrat in 75 years to win and said $250,000 was his bar. the elections have consequences. so that's a legitimate place to be. everybody that got elected to the house of representatives just got elected, too. and they have a no new tax pledge. you are at logger heads here. i think there is a sweet spot where nobody wants to be the person to raise the taxes that we just talked about and have a big bill come across your table in january. >> i think really the problem is spending. we've spending problem in our country. look at our debt. our debt is over $16 trillion. our government is spending way too much money. we need to cut back on spending, cut -- >> arthel: where? >> look at the entitlement programs, for example. there's a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse going on there. that is not even on the table. and so listen, we can cut our expenses in our country that is spleeningful and very important for us to do because right now, they're just kicking the can
but an election happened. president obama has the first democrat in 75 years to win and said $250,000 was his bar. the elections have consequences. so that's a legitimate place to be. everybody that got elected to the house of representatives just got elected, too. and they have a no new tax pledge. you are at logger heads here. i think there is a sweet spot where nobody wants to be the person to raise the taxes that we just talked about and have a big bill come across your table in january....
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we had an election, and we had an election where voters clearly supported the president. jon: he got 50.96% of the population. >> he got over 300 electoral votes. romney only have one battleground state. tons of senate victories, again in the house, there were gains. voters agree with the handling of the economy presently and the proposals that the president has a point. it has to the one spending cuts and republicans try to pass a plan of their own, but it failed. bill kristol has criticized the plan. those are not my words, republicans have criticized that now republicans are really standing in the way of the real deal in order to defend the very top. >> republicans have a mandate as well. they were elected in the majority in the house of representatives, and their mandate is to maintain a grip on the size of government. instead of letting the president and the democrats go towards greed and bankruptcy and insolvency. they have a mandate. if they go along with raising taxes on the job creators in america, they can plan to be wiped out in the midterm election. they know
we had an election, and we had an election where voters clearly supported the president. jon: he got 50.96% of the population. >> he got over 300 electoral votes. romney only have one battleground state. tons of senate victories, again in the house, there were gains. voters agree with the handling of the economy presently and the proposals that the president has a point. it has to the one spending cuts and republicans try to pass a plan of their own, but it failed. bill kristol has...
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republicans have not sealed the deal with the president yet is they just won't admit that he won the election. take a listen to senator chuck schumer. >> on taxes i know it's hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform 250 no taxes below but taxes above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> independent senator joe lieberman says he believes for the first time in the entire debate that we may be going off the fiscal cliff. he and others have said all along that there would be this fighting but right up to the deadline. they have finally come up with some sort of a deal. lieberman and others on the hill saying they think we may in fact go off the cliff. rattle the markets as you suggested, jamie. lieberman also believes the senate will be in session on new year's eve. going right up against the end of the year deadline to try to work this out, jamie. >> jamie: if any news breaks i know you will bring it to us. live from honolulu. washington is not the only one thinking about the fiscal cliff. it turns out that the co
republicans have not sealed the deal with the president yet is they just won't admit that he won the election. take a listen to senator chuck schumer. >> on taxes i know it's hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform 250 no taxes below but taxes above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> independent senator joe lieberman says he believes for the first time in the entire debate that we may be going off...
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. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and what's going to happen now between today and tomorrow is, if you've got mitch mcconnell and harry reid sitting down, never a good thing and apparently, trying to come up with income tax thresholds, and if they don't come up with something, again, that wedge gets driven further and obama can sit in the cat bird's seat and blame, blame, blame republicans for their obstructionism. >> dave: quickly, you think a deal gets done, a threshold say around a half million dollars, unemployment gets extended and very little cuts, is that basically what you think happens here? >> i think that's right. i think that's the basi
. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and...